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The following is a compilation of Q&A's submitted by enthusiasts and answered by Ask Motor-Mike and Ed.

 

Part Twenty Eight - Q&A 676 - 700


676. I have a 2002 LE PT with an automatic transmission and would like to install a Proform shift light. It has a feature, which allows the user to adjust it at the desired shift rpm's, and can be used in vehicles with a manual or automatic transmission. It has three wiring connections; two are for - black for negative battery, red for positive at the ignition switch. The remaining green wire is supposed to tap into the negative side of the coil, can you tell me which of the three wires on my coil pack I would connect it to? Any information would be helpful. - Russ, from California.

Were not familiar with that particular product, but from what I've seen, there is a special tachometer adapter needed. There is no "tachometer drive" wire tap on new computer controlled cars. The PT uses a waste-spark ignition and will fire each plug twice during a single revolution.

Personally, I don't see the need for a shift light. The tachometer is standard on every PT and is easy to read. The automatic transmission's computer will shift at the absolute optimum time and with the greatest consistency.

Posted by Powertrip in the PT forums - The only way to do it is to install a Crane Hi-6DI2 ignition system with its accessory control module. With it, the unit has a true "tachometer" output (green) wire.

 


677. I have a 2002 LE PT w/21k miles. It has always started quickly on the first crank, however, in the last week or so, it has been "slow" to start when warm, after sitting about 20-30 minutes, since driving. The outside air temperature is in the 70's. It will crank several times, then start hesitantly, rough idle for a few seconds, then the rpm's will increase to normal idle speed. The last time it did this, an observer seemed to notice a smell that might have been gas at the rear of the car. The dealer says, "can not duplicate, no error codes, or TSB's." Thanks. - Jeff, from USA.

You need a return trip to the dealer. The technician, not the service writer, needs to hear some special terms. When you speak with the technician say this: Since the recent increase in ambient temperatures, I am experiencing a hard start, extended crank, low/rough idle after a hot soak. This is accompanied by a distinct odor from the exhaust. There are no driveability concerns and start-up is normal after a cold soak.

This may be a result of winter fuel blends still being used with the increase in outside temperatures. Winter fuel will boil and vapor lock at a much lower temperature than summer blends. A hot soak will see internal engine temps rise from 210F to over 265F. A hot soak is from the 800F cylinder temps causing the oil and coolant to heat up when the engine is turned off and the coolant quits flowing to the radiator. Since the PT uses a returnless fuel system, a vapor lock has no where to go, except into the cylinders at start-up.

 


678. I have a 2002 LE PT. Can you tell me what the fuel tank is composed of? Thanks. - Ray, from Montana.

The PT uses a plastic fuel tank located rear center of the vehicle. The in-tank fuel pump module contains the fuel pump. The pump is serviced as part of the fuel pump module. The fuel filter is not serviceable; it is mounted on the inside of the fuel tank in the fuel pump module.

 


679. I have read about the different terms, which relate to tire wear, but what does the term "radial runout" mean? - Karl, from Maine.

Radial runout is the difference between the high and low points on the outer edge of the tire or wheel. Lateral runout is the total side-to-side wobble of the tire or wheel.

Radial runout of more than 1.5 mm (0.060 inch) measured at the centerline of the tread may cause the vehicle to shake. Lateral runout of more than 2.0 mm (0.080 inch) measured at the side of the tire as close to the tread as possible may cause the vehicle to shake.

Sometimes radial runout can be reduced by relocating the wheel and tire on the wheel studs. If this does not reduce runout to an acceptable level, the tire can be rotated on the wheel.

Note - Runout should always be measured off the vehicle and on a suitable balance machine.

 


680. I have a 2003 GT PT. I've been researching installation of an AutoMeter water temp gauge (along with a boost gauge) in my GT. AutoMeter tells me the gauge will not work off the OE sensor. Since that sensor feeds the signal to the ECT, I wouldn't want to take a chance of corrupting that anyway.

I'm down to drilling and tapping to install the AutoMeter sender for the water temp gauge. I had thought of just inserting a "T" where the OE sender is to accommodate both senders. However, after looking at the manual (need to remove the engine torque brace), and engine bay I noticed that I may not have enough room in there for the "T", so I've decided to drill and tap for the AutoMeter sender. Is the radiator filler neck plastic or aluminum? It's black rather than the silvery color. I can't tell by tapping on it. Is it thick enough for tapping? Also, will I get a true reading if I tap into it there? - Joe, from California.


You won't get a true reading there. You need to take the temperature reading at the cylinder head. Radiator temperatures will fluctuate with vehicle speed and fan activation. You want engine temperatures, not radiator temperatures.

 


681. I have a 2001 BE PT and would like to know if DC offered an introductory Cruiser with a roll up (manual) window option? - Mac, from Nevada.

Power windows have been standard on all US models, regardless of year or edition.

 


682. We have a 2001 2.0L LE PT, which we purchased 6 months ago from the owner, who was going overseas. We would like to know the torque specifications for the main and big end bearings please. My husband is a mechanic, but we don't have a manual. Thank you. - Jeff, from South Africa.

Based upon your description, I believe that these are the parts and specs:

Connecting Rod Cap - Bolts

N-m 27 +1/4 turn
Ft. Lbs. 20 +1/4 turn


Crankshaft Main Bearing

Cap/Bedplate

óM8 Bolts
N-m 34
Ft. Lbs. 25


óM11 Bolts
N-m 81
Ft. Lbs. 60


Crankshaft Damper

N-m 136
Ft. Lbs. 100

 


683. I have a 2001 BE PT and am experiencing a "bus 60" fault code reading on the odometer. I haven't been able to find anyone in my area that can tell me what the code indicates. Can you help me repair my PT? Thank you very much. - Alfonso, from Mexico City.

We have received two other reports of the "bus 60" odometer reading. Thus far we haven't received feedback from either owner on what it indicates or how it was repaired. I did determine that the odometer will read, "no bus" if the PCI communication has failed. It will read "FUSE" if the IOD fuse is removed or blown. I also contacted DC, but they were unable to help. We would suggest that you have your local dealer check it out.

Follow up from owner - I visited the local dealer to check the fault, and they resolved the problem. The problem began when I changed a light, and burned the IOD Fuse in the PDC under the hood. The computer sent me the "bus 60" code. I changed the IOD fuse, but the computer still indicated the same code. The dealer checked the PT with their DRB III scan tool, but the scan tool didn't report the fault, since I already replaced the fuse. Now, the problem was the odometer - it still indicated "bus 60" code. The technicians said this is normal, because the computer saved the message. The solution was to initialize the computer with the DBR scan tool to clear the code. It took them no more than 5 minutes to check and fix the problem.

 


684. I have a 2002 TE PT and would like to add lights to the front door panels, but can't seem to pull the wires through the hose between the door and the body. What is the easiest way to run the wires? - Brian, from California.

I don't see any other entry point into the door cavity. The existing hose has a bend in it, which makes passing wires through it a little difficult, however it serves to protect the wires when opening and closing the door. The last thing you want to do is pinch and short your lamp wiring as you maneuver the door. Try passing a stiff coat hangar wire through the hose, then pulling the wiring through.

 


685. I have a 2003 GT PT and recently installed an Auto Meter Ultra-lite oil pressure gauge. I would like to know what the readings (pressure values) should be at idle and while driving? - Chris, from California.

The oil pressure at curb idle speed should be 25kPa (4psi) and at 3000rpm 170-550kPa (25-80psi).

 


686. I have a 2001 LE PT and would like to know where the EFI is located? I am in a quandary as to where to install a Super Fuel Max device? Thanks. - Patrick, from Florida.

If you are referring to EFI, electronic fuel injection, it is everywhere. The fuel pump, pressure regulator and filter are inside the fuel tank. The lines run under the car. The fuel rail and injectors are on the cylinder head. The PCM computer controls are mounted on the firewall. The power relays are in the under hood PDC fuse box. The 15 or so sensors used to control EFI are all over the engine, transmission and exhaust.

The general instructions call for placing the Fuel Max on the supply line, which is under pressure from the fuel pump. Fuel injected engines have two lines running in parallel between the fuel tank and the engine, a supply line and a return line. That said, these devices are gimmicky and have been around since the 60's. There's a reason why the number of negative product reviews, outweigh the positive ones - my experience has been that they don't work. You may want to save your money.

 


687. We have a 2001 BE PT with 105k miles. Recently we started to detect noise coming from the front end of the vehicle. Our dealer inspected it and said one of the lower ball joints appears to be wearing out. Have you received any additional complaints like this? Thank you. - Paul, from Alaska.

No, we haven't. According to the service manual you can diagnosis and test the lower ball joints easily. With the weight of the vehicle resting on the road, grasp the headless grease fitting on the bottom of the joint. With no mechanical assistance or added force, attempt to move the grease fitting. If the ball joint is worn, the grease fitting will move. If movement is noted, replace the ball joint. Caution - No attempt should be made to service the headless grease fitting on the ball joint. It has been purposely snapped off by the manufacturer to avoid over-greasing.

 


688. I have a 2001 LE PT and have a quick question. I'm just learning how to change my own oil, etc. I was reading about how to change the fuel filter and found out that it was built into the fuel pump. Do I just wait until the pump goes and take it to the dealer or what? Thanks. - Luke, from Florida.

If you check your owners' manual you will notice that DC does not provide maintenance requirements for the filter. The fuel filter mounts inside the fuel pump module and is a non-serviceable part. The only time it's changed is when the fuel pump fails and is replaced. The PT uses an electric fuel pump, which is located in and is part of the fuel pump module. It is a positive displacement, gerotor type, immersible pump with a permanent magnet electric motor. The fuel pump module is suspended/installed in the top of the fuel tank.

 


689. I have a 2002 DE PT and recently ran over a curb and dented the rocker panel behind the right front wheel. If I had to replace it, where does this piece end or is it all one piece back to the rear hatch? Thanks. - Dave, from Canada.

The rocker panel goes from the front to rear wheel wells. It may require sectioning to replace. The labor time is 9.0 hours to R&R the rocker panel. The listed cost of the panel is $627.00 and must then be painted at additional costs. This is not a DIY job. It looks as though you must cut it out of the body and weld and fill the seams to replace it. That's why they call it "sectioning."

Left Side: P/N 5016531AD
Right Side: P/N 5016530AD

 


690. I have a 2001 PT and am experiencing a very rough idle. I ran the vehicle self-tests and received a P0304 fault code - "misfire on cylinder # 4." What could be the cause, possibly the ignition coil? Thanks. - William, from Georgia.

The ignition coil fires both cylinder #4 and #2 from the same winding. It's not likely to be the coil. Look at the plug and wire. Also inspect for oil or coolant in the cylinder. You can reach that plug without removing the intake manifold.

 


691. I have a 2002 LE PT and would like to install a push button ignition switch. The product is from "Ignited Performance Products." It allows you to have a push button start, but only when you have the keys in the ignition and turned on so theft is not a problem. It is designed to fit in a cigarette lighter port with no extra drilling required. My question is, are you familiar with this product and where can I splice in to the starter wire around the dash area? Thank you. - Russ, from California.

Page 596, 8W-21-3 of the 2002 manual shows the wire as a 14awg yellow wire from cavity #6 of the ignition switch to cavity #11 of connector C105 under the dash. A service manual diagram should be used to verify your work. We're not familiar with this product and would suggest that you contact the manufacturer with regard to additional installation questions.

 


692. I have a 2002 BE PT and noticed something in the top section of the OEM airbox while servicing my K&N after market filter. It appears to be a white plastic reducer (restriction) lodged in the air passageway nozzle. It looked like it reduced the airflow by about 10%, so I removed it. What a difference - it sounds better, and there's a tad more throttle response now that more air is able to enter the engine. I can't believe I missed that thing when I put in the K&N the first time. Why does DC have this reducer installed in the inlet - for noise? Thanks. - Dan, from Florida.

I tested it about 2 years ago; the restriction is nearly 33%. It's part of the silencer. Now you know why some of the after market and alternate homemade air intakes are popular.

 


693. Three weeks ago I purchased a new inferno red 2003 TE PT with the optional flames and spoiler. I decided to add a small flame decal to the passenger side airbag cover and tried to prep the cover with denatured alcohol. The alcohol ruined the painted finish on the cover, almost removing the paint. Please let other owners know that using an alcohol based cleaner on these panels will damage them. Do I need to live with this ruined cover or is there a way I can fix and/or replace it? - Walt, from Washington.

Were not sure whether you can repair the damaged cover or if you will need to replace it. You may want to have an auto paint shop pro take a look. In either case, the cover will have to be removed. The process to remove the cover is lengthily, involves removing the dash cover, plus a few sub-procedures, and is costly when handled by the dealer. Several DIY'ers have reported removing the cover using the procedure outlined in the service manual. You will need to purchase or borrow a manual if you plan to attempt this on your own, or you can use the procedure provided in the Pit area.

 


694. I have a 2002 TE PT. I'm considering having a fabric type folding sunroof professionally fitted in the PT and would like to remove the central dome light. Does it have integral alarm sensors? If so, how do I disable them yet keep the rest of the security system operable. Thanks. - Mike, from the UK.

Pages 695-696, 8W-44-2 & 3 of the service manual show the intrusion sensor mounted inside the dome light on the export PT. Since I cannot physically inspect one in the USA, I cannot tell for sure how to bypass or disable it.

 


695. I have a 2002 LE PT and installed the Hood Strut kit according to the guide on the site. In some of the engine bay modifications pictures that I've seen, which have hood struts, the cylinder is facing up instead of down. Which is the correct position? Thanks. - Mike, from New Jersey.

Most struts are designed and rated for an average number of lifts before they fail. In most cases the struts will function correctly for the lifetime of the vehicle under "average" user conditions. There are a few lines of thought on strut cylinder positioning.

Some folks suggest mounting the strut with the cylinder in the "on bottom" position, as is currently indicated in the guide. The reasoning behind this is, over a period of years the pressure in the cylinder could (or not) dissipate (seal leak, faulty construction, etc.) prematurely. If so, eventually the strut would not be able to support the weight of the hood. When mounted in this fashion the owner can use a pair of vice-clamps or similar tool to clamp onto the piston where it enters the gas cylinder, thus blocking the piston from slipping into the cylinder, and holding up the hood.

Frank Irvine, who works with and repairs hood struts for a living suggests mounting the strut with the cylinder in the "on top" position to maximize the effective lifetime of the strut. That way the oil inside the cylinder lubricates the cylinder seal each time the piston slides in and out of the cylinder.

It's great to have options, but when in doubt follow the instructions provided with your product purchase.

 


696. I have a 2003 BE PT. Have you heard about any paint problems on the PT, other than the occasional paint chipping or scratch problems? My PT is black with two light gray blotches on the hatch door. The affected areas are as smooth as the rest of the paint. It looks like the paint didn't stick to that area and it's clear coated over it. Is there anything I can do to repair it? Thank you. - Gary, from Illinois.

Most owners who complain about the paint usually refer to the chipping problems. We haven't received any complaints of blotching, however I do recall reading a few forum posts during the past year, which described a similar problem. No cause was mentioned, and the problems were resolved through their local dealers (I believe that they repainted the areas). I would suggest that you take no action on your own - it's a new vehicle; have the dealer handle it under the warranty. (For DIY professional looking paint chip repair see the Langka discount offer on the PT DIY Club page.)

Follow up from owner - I went to the dealer today and they indicated that it was a shadow under the clear coat. They will repaint the damaged areas.

 


697. I purchased my new 2003 TE PT less than a month ago. I like to use the trip odometer in order to check my gas mileage, but the trip odometer twice has reset itself to zero after just a few miles (over a period of 3-4 days). I'm sure I am not inadvertently turning it back myself. Does this happen if the car sits unused for more than 24 hours, or what is going on? - Marcia, from Ohio.

The trip odometer/odometer are treated as part of the instrument cluster in the service manual, without the benefit of independent servicing data. The 2001 owners' manual does not provide any information regarding the automatic reset issue you describe. Reset only occurs when you depress the trip-reset button for more than 2 seconds. Check your 2003 owners' manual to determine if there have been changes to the odometer information provided. If it isn't explained there you will have to contact your local dealer. If it requires work it will fall under warranty coverage.

Joe, from North Carolina wrote, I bought a 2003 BE PT in 2-2003. My trip odometer also resets. I've had the dealer check the PT 3 times for this problem. The first time the dealer said they had to order a new instrument cluster. The 2nd time they installed the new cluster yet it still reset itself. The 3rd time they said they couldn't duplicate the problem and that I was resetting it. The problem is intermittent - sometimes it resets every time the car is started, other times the trip odometer works fine for a few days to a week. I'm positive that I'm not accidentally resetting it. My dealer thinks I'm imagining this.

Webmaster note - our suggested fix would have been the same as the dealer, replace the IC. You might mention to your dealer that your issue is not an isolated incident. If they claim that they still can't help you contact DC Customer Assistance directly and ask that they or the zone manager for your area intervene on your behalf.

 


698. I have a 2002 TE PT with OEM trailer hitch. I am confused as to the correct tongue weight for the hitch. I have a 50 lb. cargo carrier and two bikes, which are 40 lb. each. Will the factory hitch take this amount of tongue weight okay? Thanks very much. - Rick, from Missouri.

The only information we can offer is what's stated in the owners' manual. The PT's maximum trailer load is 1000 lb. The tongue weight should not exceed 10% of the maximum trailer load. That sounds like a maximum of 100 lb. to me, so you would be about 30 lb. overweight based upon the numbers (50 + 40 + 40 = 130 -100 = 30) you provided. You may want to check my formula/math with your local dealer and also request the specs for the OEM hitch.

 


699. I have a 2001 TE PT. How often does the serpentine belt need replacement, and how is it accomplished? - Ken from Kansas.

The serpentine belt drives the power steering pump and A/C compressor. The maintenance schedule is outlined in your owners' manual. Inspect and adjust (if necessary) the power steering pump and A/C compressor drive belt tension at 30K, 45K, 60K, 75K, 90K and 105K according to schedule B. We recommend that that you have a service manual on hand if you intend to replace any of drive belts.

drivebelt.jpgThe accessory drive consists of two Poly-V type drive belts. One belt drives the generator, and the other drives the power steering pump and A/C compressor (if equipped). The power steering and A/C belt is tensioned by an automatically controlled belt tensioner. (The tensioner can be irrevocably damaged if you adjust it incorrectly.) The generator belt is manually tensioned using an adjusting bolt and a locking nut.

 


700. I have a 2003 GT PT, which uses the Getrag manual transmission. What kind of manual transmission is used in the non-turbo PT's? Who is the manufacturer, are they reliable, any info would be helpful? Thanks very much! - Gary, from Illinois.

As far as I know, Chrysler builds it in Kokomo, Indiana, along with the 41TE automatic transmission. We have received very few complaints from owners during the past two years with regard to problems with the T350 manual transmission.

The T350 is a five speed constant-mesh manual transaxle. All gear ranges, except reverse, are synchronized. The reverse gear utilizes a reverse brake for shifting ease. The reverse idler gear is supported on a sliding spindle idler shaft. The transaxle case is aluminum with a steel end-plate bearing cover. It is housed in a die-cast aluminum case featuring a two piece, middle split design (Fig. 1). The T350 transaxle internal components can be serviced only by separating the gear case from the bellhousing case. The transaxle output shaft is serviced as a unit. No disassembly and re-assembly is possible. Damage to the transaxle may result. Complete information about each transaxle is available in the Pit area.

 

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